Newspaper clipping. This poignant family photo was published in the newspaper at the time of Arthur Patrick Doran's death. Interestingly, our relatives have a picture of a couple taken by the same photographer, sitting in the same chairs.
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Genealogy Sisters research on the Doran name leads us to new cousins in Canada
Along the way we have done quite a lot of research on the Doran name that didn't pan out to be our ancestors, or that we researched on request. In this case, we started off with a request to research Arthur Patrick Doran, who had died in WWI in France. As we suspected, this family also descends from the same male Doran as our does. We just haven't figured out yet who the common ancestor is. The records in Ireland get pretty difficult to sort through once you try to break through into the 1700s. Disclaimer, we are not professional genealogists and don't pretend to be. So when we conduct research for someone, we do not charge for it. And we only do it if the subject is of interest to us. That's what you do when it's a hobby, not a career. If you need professional genealogy work done we suggest you contact a local genealogical society to ask them for references. |
Arthur Patrick Doran (1884-1914)
Arthur was the son of Patrick Doran and his wife Mary "Minnie" O'Hagan. We've learned a lot about Arthur and his family from another researcher, but as she prefers to retain the rights to her very documented research, we are only including here the information about them that we have learned directly from his descendants and/or from our own research.
Arthur Patrick Doran was born in June of 1884 in Ireland. Arthur Patrick unfortunately died Aug 27, 1914 in France. Of the men who served from West Belfast, Ireland Arthur was the first casualty of World War I.
Following are excerpts from the information provided to us by Arthur Patrick Doran's grandson supplemented by information found through other sources.
Arthur Patrick Doran married Sarah Hermon on September 12, 1909 in Belfast, Northern Ireland. (Registration number M/1909/B1/450/1/34) Their only child, Arthur James Doran was born April 2, 1911 - the same day that he is enumerated in the 1911 Ireland Census, living with his mother at 278 Cupar St (Shankhill area), Belfast, along with 5 relatives in the Hermon family. The young family moved to 12 Merkland St. Belfast. This is the address provided on Athur Patrick's Last Will & Testament.
Arthur Patrick joined the 2nd Royal Irish Rifles and was a Corporal in the Regulars. He was dispatched with the British Expeditionary Force to France shortly after the outbreak of war to try and help the French stop the Germans who had invaded Belgium and were on their way into France. The BEF landed in France Aug 14th, marched to Mons in Belgium and engaged the enemy then made an orderly retreat slowing them down. He died at the Battle of Le Cateau August 27, 1914 - a very important battle apparently: "The Battle of Le Cateau was certainly that in which British troops were most heavily outnumbered by the enemy on the Western Front up to the time of the German offensive of 1918. It can scarcely be doubted that it was of great importance in checking the German plan of campaign...It is pretty clear that the German First Army missed, late in the afternoon, such a chance of winning a great victory as seldom occurred in the Western Theatre of WW 1."
Arthur Patrick Doran is buried in Caudry Old Communal Cemetery in France. Caudry is a town about 13 kilometres east of Cambrai on the south side of the main road (D643) to Le Cateau. The cemetery is located in town. For anyone searching for the burial site of the war dead, go to CWGC Commonwealth War Graves Commission at http://www.cwgc.org/. This certificate for Arthur Patrick Doran was obtained free of charge from that web site.
Arthur James Doran (1911-1968)
After his father's death, Arthur James Doran lived with his mother Sarah Hermon Doran and his maternal grandmother Mary Hermon in Belfast, Ireland until 1920 when he emigrated with his grandmother to Hamilton, Ontario, Canada. Grandmother Hermon raised "wee Arty" and he continued to live with her for next 10 years (at which point he would have been around 19 years old).
Artie's mother Sarah, later left Ireland emigrating to Toronto where she found work. She eventually remarried and had a second family with her husband Charles Gates. "Grannie Gates," as she was known by her family, died in 1970 in Toronto. Though her grandchildren didn't get to see a lot of her growing up, they remember her as a "real character" and loved her very much. Arthur James Doran died in 1968. Unfortunately neither he nor Grannie Gates talked much about the Doran family. Most likely he didn't know very much about them as the family became estranged with his father, whose family was Roman Catholic, married a Protestant. In a letter of Granny Gates (Sarah Hermon Doran Gates) there is a mention of Arty's Uncle James (Jim) Doran who emigrated to Australia most likely after WWI. One of Sarah Hermon's brothers also emigrated to Australia. The rest of the Hermon family appear to have remained in Belfast.
Some preliminary research has indicated that while some of Arty's Doran uncles and aunts remained in Belfast, a few others emigrated to the Chicago area. Arthur James's son did not know about these relatives until we came across them in our research. Another researcher, mentioned earlier, knew the family in Belfast, and was very helpful in providing our "cousin" with more information about his relatives.
Arthur Patrick Doran's Parents and his Siblings
Arthur Patrick Doran's parents were Patrick Doran (also the son of of a Patrick Doran) and Mary Elizabeth "Minne" O'Hagan, daughter of Henry O'Hagan and Sarah Reid.
The marriage record for Arthur Patrick Doran's parents, Patrick Doran and Mary O'Hagan, was dated May 6, 1880. Patrick Doran was a teacher and lived at 48 Mille St., and Mary O'Hagan was 19 and lived at 72 Raglan St. Her parents listed in the transcribed record as Henry and Margaret (sic) Ohagan. Margaret was her sister. Another interesting coincidence is that a member of the Ohagan family was a witness at one of our own Doran family weddings in Belfast around that time.
CHURCH BAPTISM RECORD FOR MARY ELIZABETH O'HAGAN
Name: Mary Elizabeth O'Hagan
Date of Birth: not mentioned
Date of Baptism: 17-Aug-1859
Address:Parish/District: BALLYMORE
County ARMAGH
Denomination:Roman Catholic
Father:Henry O'Hagan
Mother:Sarah Reid
Sponsor 1:Patrick Rogers
Sponsor 2:Marg Reid
Notes: D O'TOOLE/ /
Source: Armagh Ancestry, www.rootsireland.ie
Mary O'Hagan's birthplace, as noted in the 1901 census of ireland, was Tandragee, County Armagh. So we think this could be the right birth record. Tandragee is a village in the parish of Ballymore, County Armagh. When Arthur Patrick Doran was born in 1884 the witness was Sarah OHagan.
The other Roman Catholic baptisms for County Armagh in that time frame, with Henry O'Hagan as the father: Mary O'Hagan, 13 July 1856, Mother Mary Wallace, Parish - Seagoe. Mary Hagan, 01 Nov 1859, Mother Rose Campbel, Parish - Lwr Killeavy. Mary Hagan, 21 July 1861, Mother Sarah McGowen, Parish - Loughgall.
Children of Mary O'hagan and Patrick Doran
We found a ton of information about this family. It's way too much for us to include here at this time. To be continued .....
Arthur was the son of Patrick Doran and his wife Mary "Minnie" O'Hagan. We've learned a lot about Arthur and his family from another researcher, but as she prefers to retain the rights to her very documented research, we are only including here the information about them that we have learned directly from his descendants and/or from our own research.
Arthur Patrick Doran was born in June of 1884 in Ireland. Arthur Patrick unfortunately died Aug 27, 1914 in France. Of the men who served from West Belfast, Ireland Arthur was the first casualty of World War I.
Following are excerpts from the information provided to us by Arthur Patrick Doran's grandson supplemented by information found through other sources.
Arthur Patrick Doran married Sarah Hermon on September 12, 1909 in Belfast, Northern Ireland. (Registration number M/1909/B1/450/1/34) Their only child, Arthur James Doran was born April 2, 1911 - the same day that he is enumerated in the 1911 Ireland Census, living with his mother at 278 Cupar St (Shankhill area), Belfast, along with 5 relatives in the Hermon family. The young family moved to 12 Merkland St. Belfast. This is the address provided on Athur Patrick's Last Will & Testament.
Arthur Patrick joined the 2nd Royal Irish Rifles and was a Corporal in the Regulars. He was dispatched with the British Expeditionary Force to France shortly after the outbreak of war to try and help the French stop the Germans who had invaded Belgium and were on their way into France. The BEF landed in France Aug 14th, marched to Mons in Belgium and engaged the enemy then made an orderly retreat slowing them down. He died at the Battle of Le Cateau August 27, 1914 - a very important battle apparently: "The Battle of Le Cateau was certainly that in which British troops were most heavily outnumbered by the enemy on the Western Front up to the time of the German offensive of 1918. It can scarcely be doubted that it was of great importance in checking the German plan of campaign...It is pretty clear that the German First Army missed, late in the afternoon, such a chance of winning a great victory as seldom occurred in the Western Theatre of WW 1."
Arthur Patrick Doran is buried in Caudry Old Communal Cemetery in France. Caudry is a town about 13 kilometres east of Cambrai on the south side of the main road (D643) to Le Cateau. The cemetery is located in town. For anyone searching for the burial site of the war dead, go to CWGC Commonwealth War Graves Commission at http://www.cwgc.org/. This certificate for Arthur Patrick Doran was obtained free of charge from that web site.
Arthur James Doran (1911-1968)
After his father's death, Arthur James Doran lived with his mother Sarah Hermon Doran and his maternal grandmother Mary Hermon in Belfast, Ireland until 1920 when he emigrated with his grandmother to Hamilton, Ontario, Canada. Grandmother Hermon raised "wee Arty" and he continued to live with her for next 10 years (at which point he would have been around 19 years old).
Artie's mother Sarah, later left Ireland emigrating to Toronto where she found work. She eventually remarried and had a second family with her husband Charles Gates. "Grannie Gates," as she was known by her family, died in 1970 in Toronto. Though her grandchildren didn't get to see a lot of her growing up, they remember her as a "real character" and loved her very much. Arthur James Doran died in 1968. Unfortunately neither he nor Grannie Gates talked much about the Doran family. Most likely he didn't know very much about them as the family became estranged with his father, whose family was Roman Catholic, married a Protestant. In a letter of Granny Gates (Sarah Hermon Doran Gates) there is a mention of Arty's Uncle James (Jim) Doran who emigrated to Australia most likely after WWI. One of Sarah Hermon's brothers also emigrated to Australia. The rest of the Hermon family appear to have remained in Belfast.
Some preliminary research has indicated that while some of Arty's Doran uncles and aunts remained in Belfast, a few others emigrated to the Chicago area. Arthur James's son did not know about these relatives until we came across them in our research. Another researcher, mentioned earlier, knew the family in Belfast, and was very helpful in providing our "cousin" with more information about his relatives.
Arthur Patrick Doran's Parents and his Siblings
Arthur Patrick Doran's parents were Patrick Doran (also the son of of a Patrick Doran) and Mary Elizabeth "Minne" O'Hagan, daughter of Henry O'Hagan and Sarah Reid.
The marriage record for Arthur Patrick Doran's parents, Patrick Doran and Mary O'Hagan, was dated May 6, 1880. Patrick Doran was a teacher and lived at 48 Mille St., and Mary O'Hagan was 19 and lived at 72 Raglan St. Her parents listed in the transcribed record as Henry and Margaret (sic) Ohagan. Margaret was her sister. Another interesting coincidence is that a member of the Ohagan family was a witness at one of our own Doran family weddings in Belfast around that time.
CHURCH BAPTISM RECORD FOR MARY ELIZABETH O'HAGAN
Name: Mary Elizabeth O'Hagan
Date of Birth: not mentioned
Date of Baptism: 17-Aug-1859
Address:Parish/District: BALLYMORE
County ARMAGH
Denomination:Roman Catholic
Father:Henry O'Hagan
Mother:Sarah Reid
Sponsor 1:Patrick Rogers
Sponsor 2:Marg Reid
Notes: D O'TOOLE/ /
Source: Armagh Ancestry, www.rootsireland.ie
Mary O'Hagan's birthplace, as noted in the 1901 census of ireland, was Tandragee, County Armagh. So we think this could be the right birth record. Tandragee is a village in the parish of Ballymore, County Armagh. When Arthur Patrick Doran was born in 1884 the witness was Sarah OHagan.
The other Roman Catholic baptisms for County Armagh in that time frame, with Henry O'Hagan as the father: Mary O'Hagan, 13 July 1856, Mother Mary Wallace, Parish - Seagoe. Mary Hagan, 01 Nov 1859, Mother Rose Campbel, Parish - Lwr Killeavy. Mary Hagan, 21 July 1861, Mother Sarah McGowen, Parish - Loughgall.
Children of Mary O'hagan and Patrick Doran
- Henry O'Hagan Doran, born 8 Mar 1881 Belfast, Antrim, Ireland. Died Dec 1899 Belfast, Ireland.
- Arthur Patrick Doran, born June of 1884, Belfast, Ant., Ireland. Died Aug 27, 1914 France.
- James McCann Doran, born June 1886 Belfast, Ant, Ireland. Death date/place unknown.
- Joseph Doran, born 13 Sep 1890 in Belfast, Ant, Ireland. Died 18 Dec 1948 Chicago, Cook Co, Illinois.
- Robert Emmett Doran, born 31 Jan 1892 Belfast, Ant, Ireland. Died Aug 1971 Fort Lauderdale, Broward, Florida.
- Mary Doran, born 1894 Belfast, Ant. Ireland. Death date/place unknown.
- Margaret Doran, born 1896 Belfast, Ant, Ireland. Death date/place unknown.
- Charles Gerard Doran, born 1898 Belfast, Ant, Ireland. Death date/place unknown.
- Henry O'Hagan Doran, born 23 Mar 1900 Belfast, Ant, Ireland. Died 14 Apr 1939 in Cook County, Illinois.
- John Doran, born about 1902 in Belfast, Ant. Ireland. Death date/place unknown.
We found a ton of information about this family. It's way too much for us to include here at this time. To be continued .....
